Transcript as published in the John O’Groat Journal
for March 6, 1896
THE
“MILLENNIAL DAWN” CONTROVERSY – INTERESTING THEOLOGICAL DISCUSSION IN CANSIBAY
FREE CHURCH – DISPUTANTS, MR C.N. HOUSTON, WICK, AND REV. MR DAVIDSON,
CANSIBAY.
A
PUBLIC theological discussion is rather a rare event in these northern parts,
and the debate arranged between Mr C.N. Houston, Wick, and the Rev. Mr
Davidson, Canisbay, which came off in the Free Church there on the evening of
Wednesday of last week was looked forward to with considerable interest, The
discussion had reference to certain teachings of the book “Millennial Dawn,”
for the circulation of which Mr Houston acknowledged responsibility, and
intimated his willingness to defend its teachings as being scriptural when
these were challenged by the Rev. Mr Davidson. When at seven o’clock the
principals in the discussion faced the audience they found that every seat in
the commodious and comfortable church was occupied. After preliminary praise,
and prayer by the Rev. Mr Davidson, Mr Houston moved that Dr Macgregor take the
chair. Mr Davidson seconded, and the Doctor, after some remarks, agreed to do
so, impressing on the audience the necessity of giving both gentlemen and fair
and patient hearing. Truth, he said, could not permanently suffer from anything
that was said or done. Vague rumours had been abroad that some lively
interruptions might be expected, but, on the whole, throughout the discussion
the audience behaved themselves very well, although at one point the
interruptions caused some liveliness, and there was a momentary danger of the
chairman losing control of the audience. Fortunately, however, he held them
very well in hand, and the debate was carried out ably and brought to a
satisfactory and becoming conclusion. An hour each was allowed for the opening
speeches. The chairman called upon Mr Houston to open the discussion after
having read the subject as follows:-
“I,
C.N. Houston, affirm that according to the Scriptures, the ‘ransom for all’
given by the ‘Man Christ Jesus’ does not give or guarantee everlasting life or
blessing to any man. It only guarantees for every man an opportunity for life
everlasting.”
“I,
Donald Davidson, affirm that according to the Scriptures, the ‘ransom for all’
given by the ‘Man Christ Jesus’ does give and guarantee everlasting life and
blessing to some men. It does not guarantee ‘another opportunity or trial for
life everlasting,’ as taught in ‘Millennial Dawn,’ vol 1.”
MR
HOUSTON’S OPENING SPEECH.
Mr Houston began by
saying that he appeared before them that night with great pleasure. If they
believed the one-half of what he had been circulated regarding him and his
beliefs he did not wonder they should have very strange feelings in their hearts.
He hoped, however, to be able to disperse some of the most erroneous ideas that
might have been crammed into them. The chairman had truly remarked that truth
could not suffer permanently. There was no truth held to-day but had a struggle
at the commencement. And there was nothing that had been so much opposed as
God’s truth. Some of them would remember the controversy that arose over the
proposed Revision of the Bible. But they had it now, and there was not so much
about it. In 1611 the Authorised Version of the Bible was opposed, and further
back Wyclif was opposed for translating the Word of God into the English
tongue, and he had made a remark which lived down the ages – that he would make
a ploughboy know more of the truth of God than the hypocritical priests of
Rome. And so all along there had been the same bitter opposition. But the god
of this world, Satan, knew all the time that it was the light – knowledge –
that was going to break up his kingdom. It was in his interest to use holy,
religious, hypocritical cant to keep it back, and so it had ever been. If
therefore they believed all they heard, that he had been disseminating error,
he was sorry; for they had known him all his life and knew that he ever sought
to do that which was considered right. Some three years ago, he proceeded, he
was led to see that there was far more in God’s word than had ever yet been
made known. He searched the light that was brought to him, proved it, and found
there was not a single point which could be gainsaid by the whole word of God.
He accordingly resolved to re-arrange his affairs, and after his
brother-in-law’s death he determined, after prayerful and earnest
consideration, to give up business and devote his life to the study and
proclamation of God’s truth independent of any creed or sect, but just as he
had seen it pointed out in that blessed book “Millennial Dawn,” which was the
word of God expounded. After that he engaged a man to distribute that little
tract “Do you Know.” He was challenged for this by the Rev. Mr Davidson, who
had every right to challenge him, but he on the other hand had every right to
his own opinions and the expounding of them. God’s truth was every man’s
possession; and that was the stage they were at now. The proposition he had to
affirm was –
“That, according to the
Scriptures, the ‘ransom for all’ given by the ‘Man Christ Jesus’ does not give
or guarantee everlasting life or blessing to any man. It only guarantees for
every man an opportunity for life everlasting.”
The last part of that sentence
was not exactly according to the book, but Mr Davidson would not take it up in
any other way, so let it go. He was glad that Mr Davidson had accepted it even
in this form, and here he was to try and make known just a little of what it is
to get an opportunity for life everlasting.
Now
WHAT WAS A “RANSOM?”
Dr Young of Edinburgh defined it as a corresponding
price – an equivalent of the same kind. Let them now come to the Scriptures and
see God’s arrangement with the first man. He described the glory of the garden
in which the glorious perfect man was placed – God’s representative on earth –
a representative man of what God meant men to be. And had he obeyed God he
would have been there forever and ever, for God did not set him there with a
trap to fall into. God’s foreknowledge does not clash with His righteous
doings. If God did not intend something better for the race he did not think He
would have suffered the world to live down in misery for six thousand years if
there was no hope. Now Adam had laws laid down to him, and so long as he obeyed
he would be lord over the whole earth. But the moment he made any deviation –
and sin was just deviation – it was said to him he would die – “In the day thou
eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” Well he did die in one of God’s “days.”
And all his posterity was doomed the same way, and there had not been a man
able to redeem his brother. Now he wished them particularly to understand that
God meant Adam to live and obey Him. Here now came the Ransom. God does not
give or guarantee everlasting life or blessing to any man by His own eternal
fiat without a purpose, but He has guaranteed to all an opportunity for life
and for blessing. God’s order in Adam was repeated in the case of the Jews –
“Choose life that ye may live; refuse my law and it is death.” God does not
propose to give eternal life right off without our acquiescence, acceptance,
obedience; but neither does He propose to condemn if He has found a Ransom, not
one living soul but those who wilfully refuse the Second Adam, the Lord from
Heaven. The great principle laid down to Adam was to obey God, and he had the
ability to do so. But he did not. Now the Second Adam comes on the scene – the
Son of God, the Perfect Man – came and divested Himself of His glory, and the
Second Man’s life had to be given for the first man’s life – blood for blood,
life for life. And so they read that “as in Adam all die even so in Christ
shall all be made alive.” Paul beautifully reasoned out the whole transaction
in the 5th chapter of the Romans. The Second Adam gave His life for
the first and all that was in him, and that would be testified by God to every
living soul in due time. That was an arbitrary act of God decreed by Him before
the world was. There was therefore no man who could perish but by refusing,
after full knowledge and opportunity of knowing and understanding what the
Second Adam had done. That was the truth of God; that was the gospel, the
joyful message which shall be unto all people. But that did not of itself save
any man. There was just this little thing – you have it for nothing on
condition you take it. The Son of God by one offering took away sin for ever
and made reconciliation with God. Now, then, how many of the sons of men had
heard this glorious gospel? The heathen had not heard. It would be a moral
impossibility for God to suffer creatures to live on for ever if He had no
provision of love and mercy; but He condemned them all in one that He might
redeem them in One. Now is there to be a time when God shall show forth what He
has done for mankind? Yes. Whosoever will may have life. Two thousand years ago
the Jews had an idea that the promise that was made to Abraham was to have a
literal fulfilment and that Jacob and all the patriarchs and prophets were to
be brought back. Paul said “Why should it be thought a thing incredible with
you that God should raise the dead?” But
they forgot their life’s history and what they had been taught through the
blood of bullocks and goats. They forgot that the world had to be redeemed
first before one of them could get it. Christ had to die according to the
Scriptures, and but for that they could never possess the land. And they shall
possess it, for God had decreed it, and they had been ransomed by the Son of
God, and all the earth at the same time. But before that takes place God
purposed that the price should be paid two “days” in advance, 2000 years or so
before the purchase was taken possession of, and why? That a noble people might
be taken out of the world who would just believe all this, and as a reward for
their faith and their witnessing to the world and overcoming were to be over
yonder and made glorious beings like unto the Son of God. When that people is
taken out, after this, declares the Apostle James “I will return and will build
again this tabernacle of David...that the residue of men might seek after the
Lord, and all the Gentiles” – after the spiritual sons are first taken out to
be joint heirs with their Lord in restoring and blessing the world of mankind.
He could prove that from the Word of God. The Jews were gauge. They had a
carnal notion that they must be set up, and so they did not receive Him when He
came. And when He said “This day your house is left unto you desolate” from
that moment they began to receive their double – their period of disfavour,
which five or six lines of Bible testimony proved terminated in 1878. Their
rise, however, would be as gradual as their fall had been, and after that time
was up Jerusalem would be ready to receive Him and not till then.
A WORD ABOUT THE
“SECOND CHANCE.”
It was knowledge that would be our condemnation if
the favour of God were rejected. Our wills were a factor that God had
recognised and if they doubted that or disbelieved it then the Scriptures were
broken. God meant man to be a noble being and not a slave, and the awfulness of
sin was shown in the destruction of those who fell away and remained
impenitent, who had possessed knowledge and opportunity, had tasted the good
word of God and the powers of the world to come. For them was reserved the
devouring fire which should devour the adversary. What a responsible thing it
therefore was to those who hear and do not obey.
MR DAVIDSON’S REPLY
Mr Davidson began by saying that in the time
allotted to him he would centre his thoughts and arguments on the latter part
of the terms of debate and would do his best to make his position clear and
convincing that the “ransom” did not guarantee “another opportunity for life
everlasting as taught in ‘Millennial Dawn,’ vol. 1.” He would first, however,
by way of argument and answer to Mr Houston’s speech, make one remark. From his
letters and his remarks his position seemed to be: there is ransom for all;,
then why should not all receive blessing through that ransom? No doubt it was a
little difficult to reconcile these two positions; but he (Mr Davidson) would
endeavour to make it clear by a simple illustration. Mr Houston was a draper in
Wick, and being in that line of business, he was quite willing and fully
competent to supply to all the servant girls who into Wick at each term with
bonnets and dresses. (Laughter and some hisses.) But he supposed he was not
exaggerating or stating what was untrue when he said that many of these persons
when they went into Wick did not go into Mr Houston’s shop and buy bonnets and
dresses notwithstanding his willingness to supply these articles. Many of them
went into other shops – by their conduct they showed they had no faith in Mr
Houston or his goods – (some hisses) – in which they were perhaps mistaken, but
it was a fact. He could sympathise with Mr Houston in that position, for he was
in the same position himself as regards spiritual matters. There was a ransom
for every one in Canisbay, and they knew that, but alas, many would not come
and avail themselves of it. The god of this world had blinded their minds, and
that explained why, though here was a ransom for all, all did not avail
themselves of the glad tidings. Proceeding, he said he had one or two questions
to put to Mr Houston, which he might answer or decline to answer. They could
not extort an answer.
(The Chairman read the first question) – “Does Mr
Houston sincerely believe that according to the Scriptures all who are unsaved
in this present life will get a second chance or another opportunity for life
everlasting after death?” To that he (Mr Davidson) said No.
Mr Houston said he would answer the question in his
reply.
Mr Davidson (resuming) said the next question was –
“Does Mr Houston acknowledge that the book ‘Millennial Dawn’ teaches the
doctrine of a second chance or another opportunity of life everlasting to the
unsaved after death?” He (Mr Davidson) said Yes; and he ventured to say the
meeting would demand straight answers from Mr Houston to these questions. (Applause
and “Answers.”)
Mr Davidson, proceeding, said that Mr Houston would
make them believe that he was as orthodox as himself (Mr Davidson), but he had
to do with the book. He thereupon read lengthy extracts from the volume in
question. The extracts were to the effect that the Scriptures do not teach that
death ends all probation; that the heathen and infants will assuredly have an
opportunity of being saved in the age or dispensation to come, when all that
are in their graves shall come forth, and when they shall have a hundred years
of trial during the millennial time; and Mr Davidson further maintained that
the book teaches that a second chance will be given to those who have lived in
a civilised state and seen or possessed a Bible.
A TESTIMONY OF INTELLIGENT MEN.
Mr Davidson said he would now read a document signed
by 21 persons, including himself – gentlemen who occupied honourable positions
and were supposed to be honest and intelligent men. It was as follows: -
“We, the undersigned, having read the book
‘Millennial Dawn,’ vol. 1., are decidedly of opinion that it plainly teaches
the doctrine of a ‘second chance’ or ‘another opportunity’ of life everlasting
to every man after death. (See pages
105, 108, 111, 129, 130, 140, 144, 150, 151, 158, 159, 160, 161.)
James Macpherson, E.C. minister of
Canisbay.
Alex. Sinclair, C.C., Canisbay.
Andrew Munro, teacher, Canisbay.
Alexander G. Macgregor, medical doctor.
James Sutherland, elder, inspector of poor.
George Manson, elder, Duncansbay.
David Kennedy, elder, Freswick.
Alexander Dunnett, elder, Brabster.
David Nicholson, deacon, Seater.
John Simpson, deacon, Moy.
Francis Sutherland, deacon, John
O’Groats.
William Dunnet, elder, Huns.
William Steven, elder, Gills.
George Malcom, deacon, Gills.
Matthew Dundass, deacon, Duncansbay.
Geo. T. Mackenzie, schoolmaster and
deacon, Freswick.
Arthur M’Connachie, divinity student,
Zion Chapel, Wick.
Daniel Sutherland, accountant, Wick.
Alex. S. Fullarton, teacher, Wick.
A. Phimester, clothier, Wick.
Donald
Davidson, Free Church Minister, Canisbay.
Continuing, Mr Davidson said he did not see why he
should go on to discuss this solemn doctrine if Mr Houston did not believe in
it? He therefore thought it would be better to have plain answers from Mr
Houston – yes or no. (Applause.)
The Chairman repeated the questions and Mr Houston
said – I will reply in my own way.
The Chairman – Exactly. (To Mr Davidson) – Go on, you
have 25 minutes yet.
There being cries of “Answer,” Mr Houston rose and
read from Hebrews vi., 4,5,6; and x., 26,27, pointing out that the condemnation
was based on rejection after knowledge.
The Chairman – The question is, Is there a second
chance for those who are unsaved in this world? (Applause.)
Mr Houston was proceeding to a further explanation,
when the discussion was rather marred by the interference of some of the
audience.
Councillor Alex. Sinclair held they get a straight
answer, yes or no, to the questions. It was truth they wanted not words.
Mr Houston – If Mr Davidson thinks I should answer
any proposition he chooses I shall not say “yes” or “no” to an absurdity.
The first question having been read again by the
chairman,
Mr Houston said he would give an illustration. When
a man was flogged on board ship, a doctor stood by and stopped the punishment
if he saw that the culprit had not sufficient life and sense to make him
conscious of what he was getting. If God had provided a ransom which was as far
reaching as the evil that is in the world, would it be just or fair that poor
creatures should be cast into destruction because they had heard something
about the ransom but did not fully understand and acquiesce in it? That would
be doing what the law of this country would not do; and that was his answer. (A
voice, “Not straight!”)
At this point there was a short interval during
which some exciting conversation took place among the audience.
The discussion being resumed, Mr Davidson said he
would now proceed to argue the question. They had, he said, arrived at this
knowledge in the course of their debate, that Mr Houston did really believe in
a second chance to the unsaved after death.
Mr Houston – Not as you put it.
Mr Davidson said he was not particular about the
terms used. He would say “every man” as was stated in the book. He was opposed
to the doctrine for four reasons – (1), Because it is unphilosophical and
unreasonable; (2), Because it is a doctrine which is repugnant to Christian thought
and feeling; (3), Because it is highly dangerous to morality; and (4), Because
it is wholly unwarranted by Scripture. Mr Davidson gave his reasons in
considerably length for each of these objections to the doctrine. It is, he
said, an ingenuous theory, but is a theory spun out of a man’s own brain. It is
a human speculation and therefore has the value only of a human speculation. He
demanded plain Scriptural warrant for the doctrine, and it lay with Mr Houston
to find the proof. He saw not a glimmer of hope from the lips of the Saviour
beyond this present life. The Scripture doctrine is, “Now is the day of
salvation;” and no one of the human race could answer the question, “How shall
we escape if we neglect so great salvation?” They dare not go beyond what was
written. (Applause.) Let Mr Houston now give plan Scriptural warrant for his
belief. (Applause.)
MR HOUSTON’S SECOND SPEECH
Mr Houston, while expressing satisfaction that Mr
Davidson had read so much from the book, pointed out that by not completing
some of the quotations he had not brought out the author’s true point, which
was that a ransom had been given, and that it was only those who came to a
clear and distinct understanding of it who would be condemned for refusing it.
On an ordinary estimate there had been 142 billions of people born since the
time of Adam, and only one billion of them by the most liberal estimate had
ever heard of the name of Christ. But the ransom had been given, and if the 141
billions were to be condemned for refusing it that would be illogical and
unlike our God. He then quoted from the Confession of Faith showing that the
teaching of Mr Davidson’s Church was to the effect that the elect only would be
saved, and that the rest of mankind God was pleased to pass by and to ordain
them to dishonour and wrath for their sin. He did not therefore wonder at Mr
Davidson’s vehemence in repudiating the doctrine that the ransom for all must
be testified to all in due time, but he asked where were the justice and
consistency, and where was the Scripture, for condemning men for not accepting
a ransom which was never offered to them or which they were foreordained to
reject? The words “As the tree falls so it shall be,” rather bore out his
doctrine that as it falls so it shall rise again. Mr Davidson might preach a
universal gospel, but the Confession of Faith did not. Mr Davidson was like the
blinded Jews of old who thought that all that God was going to do for the world
was to be done by them. He said it was only for some men. Then woe betide the
multitude, for St Paul argued that no one could be saved but by hearing of and
believing on this Name. Christ, however, had tasted death for every man,
although that did not excuse sin in any. He read from “Millennial Dawn,” page
145, as follows – “We do not wish to be understood as ignoring the present
responsibility of the world, which every man has, according to the measure of
light enjoyed, whether it be much or little; whether it be the light of nature
or of revelation.” The news of a second chance for all in the Second Adam was
the Gospel or glad tidings. God had appointed a day in which He would judge the
world, and He would bring back man to it. The Jews would be taken back to the
land, yes and the Gentiles also. He (Mr Houston) had come to them that night,
and it was at their peril whether they received or rejected the glorious truth
which he had to tell them about.
MR DAVIDSON’S CONCLUDING SPEECH.
Mr Davidson said that he never listened to such a
mixture of orthodoxy and heresy, of sense and nonsense, from the lips of any
man. That was his opinion and judgment. Mr Houston appeared to have no shadow
of doubt in his mind regarding those great and solemn questions respecting the
state of the heathen, the offer of the gospel and the doctrine of election. He
(Mr Davidson) had arrived at no such condition of certainty; and he would like
to be a little more humble. He could not reconcile God’s sovereignty with man’s
free will. God’s command was “Go ye into the world and preach the gospel to
every creature,” but God was not in duty bound, as a mere matter of justice, to
send him the Gospel; and he might have been made an ape, a horse or a worm
instead of a human being. If he were cast into hell, he could not say nay. If
God had sent him the Gospel, he could only consider it a marvellous act of
mercy, condescension and love on His part for which he trusted to praise Him
throughout eternity. He had no ambition to continue this controversy any
longer. He freely handed it over to any party who might take his place in
answering Mr Houston. He would tread his path humbly and confidently, assured
that God in His own time would bring all things to light. His answer as to the
present and future condition of the heathen was that a great sin and guilt lay
upon the Christian Church for not obeying the command, “to preach the gospel to
every creature;” but he had this satisfaction to his own mind, that unto whom
much is given of them much is required. He believed that there would be various
degrees of punishment when the day of judgment comes. He dare not go beyond
God’s word. He left those matters which were not intended to be solved in the
hands of Him who, being a God of justice and love, will not punish any
individual beyond what he deserves; and if he, a simple member of the human
race, got strict justice meted out to him, he, at least, would have no reason
to complain. (Applause.)
MR HOUSDON’S LAST WORD.
Mr Houston in his concluding speech said it was
because the Judge of all the earth would do right that he sought to be there
that night; and he was there because he wished to show forth what was a
Scriptural, Godlike, philosophical and true doctrine. (A voice, “You’ve no
Scripture for a second chance.”) Mr Davidson
said he had spoken some nonsense. Well, he was not alone in that; for it was
written that the very wisdom of God had appeared foolishness to men. Mr
Davidson also said that he (Mr Houston) had not a shadow of doubt; but why
should he doubt? for if God’s word said that a ransom is given to all, for all
it is. He quoted from Rotherham’s translation the text John xi. – 25,26 – “I am
the resurrection and the life. He that liveth and believeth in me though he die
shall live again; and no one who lives again and puts faith in me shall in any
wise die unto the remotest age. Believest thou this?” Mr Davidson might seem to
be charitable; but when his Church declared against God’s Word that only a
certain elect number are saved and that the rest are passed by, he thought it
behoved men who sought to maintain the honour of God to see, if God had given a
ransom, that that ransom ensures what it says, and that it will be declared to
all. The problem of God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility was solved by
that doctrine – that God has appointed a day wherein he will judge the world,
so that every man who ever lived shall hear the voice of the Son of God. God’s
sovereignty in the ages and dispensations was fixed and true and man’s free
will was true also.
Mr Davidson had a right of reply but said his last
word would be to move a hearty vote of thanks to the chairman. This was
seconded by Mr Houston who said that the doctor had acted as chairman in a very
fair manner indeed. (Applause.)
The meeting then quietly dispersed, the proceedings
having terminated about 10.30. Parties from Wick and Halkirk were hospitably
entertained by Councillor Alex. Sinclair, merchant, by the Rev, Mr Davidson, Dr
Macgregor and others.
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What happened to the plump cat?
Well, at least it shows someone has read through this whole series of posts. The John O'Groat Journal reporter obviously had his attention elsewhere at the crucial moment.
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