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Thursday, April 25, 2019

J F Rutherford visits home



3 comments:

ZionsHerald said...

Would anyone be able to put a date on this? I know that this is a lecture he gave between the years of 1914-1916. I can't imagine this was 1916 as he was very involved with the Society at this time in December of 1916 after Charles Taze Russell had passed away so that would possibly date it December of 1914 or 1915.

Gary said...

Rutherford was in Hamburg, Germany, when the Great War commenced per his discourse 'Militarism - How will it forever be destroyed?' (available as a PDF online). Some sources suggest a quiet time as regards his IBSA involvement between then and Russell's death, but I see considerable involvement throughout. Why otherwise would others be so keen to back his leadership?
Even given his notoriety at having been a local boy made good in this part of the USA, it seems unlikely his advertised talk could have been so welcomed after the USA entered the war in April 1917. Consequently, without further evidence to the contrary, I agree with ZionsHerald's approximate dating of thus event. Now, come on Jerome, you must know the date? Please put us out of our misery.
P.S. Can I add that undated news cuttings are the bane of my life.

jerome said...

Thanks Gary for kind words, but I cannot add to what Zion’s Herald supplied. I couldn’t find any contemporary write-up of JFR’s visit to Versailles, and the date of December 2 would either be Wednesday in 1914 or Thursday in 1915, which doesn’t supply any answers. I couldn’t find the quoted cutting from Springfield which might have narrowed it down. Others who may have different newspaper databases might like to try this as well. I agree with ZH’s analysis that it would have to be after the start of the Great War but before JFR went back to New York prior to becoming president of the Society – so in 1914 or 1915.

ZH has kindly sent me a mass of material culled from convention reports and the St Paul Enterprise newspaper supporting the fact that, while Rutherford left the New York Bethel (there were cut backs for financial reasons) he was extremely busy working for the IBSA cause on the west coast, engaging in the Troy debate, writing the Ecclesiastical Heavens booklet and speaking at various venues (alas not the Versailles one). There is far too much to post here, but if anyone is interested they can contact me back-channel and I can send it them as a pdf.